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标题: [PvE][TBC][强化破甲][WA字符串] 强破贼 能量计算 与 技能提醒 WA v1.31 220706更新 [打印本页]

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标题: [PvE][TBC][强化破甲][WA字符串] 强破贼 能量计算 与 技能提醒 WA v1.31 220706更新
关于强破时能量的估算思路(WA也是同样的思路设计的)请看上一篇帖子:
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=32117023

[size=120%]没有什么意外的话,1.3版就是最终版本了。(果然立了Flag,1.31修复了报错)

[size=150%]视频预览
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xB4y1S7js/

3个版本的差别的优缺点:
1.<能量预估条> 预估条的颜色和进度显示的是计算后的破甲结束时的能量,预估准确度最高。清晰的给出能量预估情况,至于用什么技能由玩家自己判断。
2.<技能提醒> 根据预估结束给出技能选用的推荐。按照推荐打就可以打出还不错的破甲与切割覆盖率。也可以只当做参考,或是一个割裂提醒器。
3.<能量预估色块> 是 <能量预估条> 的简化版本,没有了进度变化,只有颜色显示状态。占用画面空间小,适合简洁界面使用。

[size=120%]个人推荐:
强破新手(强破节奏不太熟练)使用 1.<能量预估条> 和 2.<技能提醒> 结合起来练习强破,(日常辅助使用也不错)
强破老手(能自行掌握切割与破甲的选择时机)先用 1.<能量预估条> 辅助估算能量,熟悉颜色与能量对应含义后,改用色块版平时辅助提醒
战斗中使用高位能量的手法,提醒会更加准确。(更容易计算出适合割裂的释放点)
WA中额外包含了我自己用的破甲和切割倒计时条。不喜欢可以删掉没有影响。
辅助说明文字(可以删除),删除方法在帖子最后。

[size=120%]更新日志
220706 1.31版
1.修复了几个报错
2.触发事件优化

220613 1.3版
1 能量预估条WA 1.3:移除了蓝色显示,之前预估能量大于等于65的蓝色现在直接显示为绿色。
2 技能提醒WA 1.3:原本尝试了一些理论上伤害更高的提醒判断,经过测试,实际效果并不好,经常在某个时间段技能提示的变化过于频繁了(可以理解为提醒技能随破甲与切割时间频繁变换提醒技能,闪来闪去的)。这与我的初衷——破甲上手使用技能提醒——冲突了。最后回退到1.23版的判断逻辑。
3 能量预估色块WA 1.3:更新的计算代码,没什么变化

220613 1.23版
1 优化了提醒判断参数
2 调整了能量预估条的样式
3 调整了技能提醒的样式
4 优化了部分代码
5 拆分为3个独立的WA <能量预估条> <技能提醒> <能量预估色块>

220613 1.22版
1 副手回能估算里增加了精准的影响
2 能量预估条和色块版都更新为最新的版本

220613 1.21版
1 优化了割裂判定的能量范围
2 副手回能估算里增加了命中的影响

220613 1.2版
1 增加了技能提醒图标:
1.1大图标推荐下一个释放的技能(根据自己的能量节奏打出技能就可以,不比立即释放)
1.2小图标推荐下一个终结技的预览
1.3两个图标会随着战斗中的变化(比如副手回能,破甲/切割时间持续减少等)而变化
2 设置中增加了割裂期望的星级,目前测试了最低2和3星,准确度都差不多(都是偶尔有提醒错误)
技能提醒还有不完善的地方,欢迎试用的同学提bug反馈问题(游戏内截图回帖就好)


[size=150%]WA说明

能量预估条 + 技能提醒
(, 下载次数: 7)


能量预估条(含说明)
(, 下载次数: 7)


[size=150%]能量预估条
[size=130%]能量预估条不是能量条,能量预估条不是能量条,能量预估条不是能量条
是通过目标破甲debuff的剩余时间来计算 当前剩余能量+未来的时间回能+未来的副手回能+未来的无情打击回能,再扣除225之后(也是未来的5个邪恶+1个破甲)的能量预估。
这个预估值代表着“如果当前打出一个终结技的话,那么在破甲debuff消失前,我能不能有足够的能量再次攒满5星,并打出下一个破甲。如果有,那么还富裕多少。
能量预估条可以帮助强破贼判断当前能否多打个终结技,也就是能不能插入一个割裂,甚至是几星的割裂。
使用能量预估条不仅能预估未来能量,更重要的是把当前已经触发的额外回能以预估的形式统计起来。比口诀更准,比记能量更方便

能量预估条有几种状态,分别对应几种颜色
1.能量富裕(进度条绿色与蓝色),不必担心破甲问题,可以随意使用终结技。在破甲debuff消失前,预估能量超过225(5星破甲),而且还超过了65(1邪恶+1终结技)
(, 下载次数: 6)

2.可终结(进度条淡黄色),当前不必担心破甲问题,可以打一个终结技。但不能再打邪恶攻击了。此时预估能量是超过 225(五星破甲) + 25(1终结技),但已经不足225+65
(, 下载次数: 6)

3.刚刚好(进度条橙色),当前能量预估刚刚好够再攒一次5星并且打出破甲的
(, 下载次数: 6)

4.缺能量(进度条看不到,只有背景色亮粉色),预估在破甲debuff消失前,能量已经不足以再打出一次5星+破甲了。需要谨慎
(, 下载次数: 5)

5.续破甲(进度条看不到,只有背景色亮粉色),在破甲debuff小于6秒时,只有准备打下一个破甲这一个选项。
(, 下载次数: 7)


能量预估条左上角显示当前距离下一次5星还需要多少时间。当预估时间小于破甲debuff(会断破甲)时,会额外显示一个小于号&quot;<&quot;,并微微发亮

能量预估条左下角显示假如现在打一个终结技之后(没星了!),距离下一次5星破甲(225)还缺多少能量。

[size=150%]食用方法:

找个木装怪(推荐诅咒之地),在战斗中反复破甲切割练习。
根据简略提示和能量预估条的颜色变化,慢慢掌握强破计算规律。

绿色绿色,正常输出,该邪恶邪恶,该切割切割,该割裂割裂
金色金色,放弃邪恶,可以切割或割裂,终结技之后还是安全的。
橙色橙色,放弃邪恶,只能打一次切割或者割裂,能量已经在断破边缘了。
粉色粉色,安心准备破甲,就算有溢出可以打邪恶或者提前破甲,因为这时候不打破甲就会断破甲。

[size=120%]建议用高位能量的手法,也就是尽量控制当前能量在40-60左右再打技能出去的策略。
低位能量,也就是有能量就打出去的手法,的预估判定范围太小了。



破甲熟练之后,可以抛弃掉这个辅助WA。也可以选择使用色块版,色块的颜色规则与完整版相同,占用画面空间更小。
(, 下载次数: 6)


如果不喜欢WA,或者用不惯WA和插件,那还是推荐用之前的土味口诀。
[size=110%]起手绞喉打切割,攒够五星直接破;
观察破甲十五秒,能量星星有多少;
星多能多看切割,切割富裕打割裂;
星少能少别贪心,攒够五星续破甲。


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(, 下载次数: 6)

(, 下载次数: 5)
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[collapse=预估计算说明]已经计算:
1.时间恢复的能量
2.5星后100%触发的无情打击25能量
3.按照20%几率和实时攻击速度(兼容4T6),计算了副手作战潜能触发的15能量
4.计算了开启冲洞后双倍能量恢复

没有计算:
1.无情触发的连击点
2.4星和4星以下的无情打击能量
3.4T5效果
4.菊花茶
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[collapse=为什么会有蓝色条?]蓝色条代表着预估能量-225之后还富裕65。
严格来说,绿色条是富裕80。蓝色条富裕65。这样绿色就是随便打邪恶,蓝色只有1邪恶1终结。
但WA做好,测试几次之后,发现蓝色条很容易跳过去,并且出现频率也比较低。所以在食用方法里无视了蓝色条。
实战中可以当蓝色条出现当做一个需要注意邪恶节奏的提醒吧,正好蓝色出现的效果也比较显眼。[/collapse]

[size=150%]字符串

JT强破能量预估条 1.31
https://wago.io/XYboNMZis
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作者: 王俊杰2017    时间: 2024-9-11 20:16
我最近在研究小德AI输出,想做个类似的WA。没想到你先弄出来了,果然行动大于思想才是硬道理。先赞再测试。
作者: 就放荡不羁就h    时间: 2024-9-11 20:23
换个标题,再发试试?
作者: 邱建华    时间: 2024-9-11 20:31
换个标题,再发试试?啊,换标题是?
作者: 天下非公呵    时间: 2024-9-11 20:39
60版本naxx打通就a了 到现在才回归 根本算不清楚强破手法 太需要这个了 感谢
作者: 123456809    时间: 2024-9-11 20:49
很棒,以前一直都是脑力计算的,有这个能节约一些思考时间。先拿来用了。
作者: 用户5592359840    时间: 2024-9-11 20:51
大佬,先取用回去试一下。
作者: 湿湿二    时间: 2024-9-11 20:57
问下大佬 这个怎么调至成总是显示的WA 现在只在战斗中显示
作者: 无热天龙中    时间: 2024-9-11 21:09
关注一下
作者: 伊索谗言    时间: 2024-9-11 21:15
问下大佬 这个怎么调至成总是显示的WA 现在只在战斗中显示/WA 加载功能标 总是显示的战斗中点两下
作者: 象棋达人    时间: 2024-9-11 21:23
感觉那个的确可以套用到贼身上
作者: 春天到了    时间: 2024-9-11 21:27
我最近研究德区的那个AI输出WA,感觉结合楼主这个就能做出来你想的那种了。我想过在现有的基础上加上推荐技能图标。只需要再梳理一下切割与破甲剩余时间的关系就行了。不过不想做了。原因有3个。
1.确实不擅长写代码,也懒了。1.0版本的设置里面还增加了赌狗模式,我还都没完善。
2.实际需求全自动提醒WA的贼友不多,更多帮助的是还不会玩贼的人能打本。
3.有了自动提醒之后,非常影响对游戏的理解……
作者: 凌善慧    时间: 2024-9-11 21:37
我想过在现有的基础上加上推荐技能图标。只需要再梳理一下切割与破甲剩余时间的关系就行了。不过不想做了。原因有3个。
1.确实不擅长写代码,也懒了。1.0版本的设置里面还增加了赌狗模式,我还都没完善。
2.实际需求全自动提醒WA的贼友不多,更多帮助的是还不会玩贼的人能打本。
3.有了自动提醒之后,非常影响对游戏的理解……非常感谢楼主,两版我都使用了,反馈下感受:1.似乎是少了切割的变量,我自己算是比较熟练打破甲的,用了以后反而有点奇怪;2.目前感受对个人最有用的是0.1版的打5星破甲所需时间;3.之前自己尝试过做过类似WA,但条件变量有点复杂代码不会放弃了,但国外Simon的最新版的模拟器有对破甲循环的能量进行模拟(根据装备),也许可以减少楼主的工作量;4.最终对楼主的期望是直接做成高亮提醒,如果楼主愿意的话
作者: yfyffuuy    时间: 2024-9-11 21:43
我想过在现有的基础上加上推荐技能图标。只需要再梳理一下切割与破甲剩余时间的关系就行了。不过不想做了。原因有3个。
1.确实不擅长写代码,也懒了。1.0版本的设置里面还增加了赌狗模式,我还都没完善。
2.实际需求全自动提醒WA的贼友不多,更多帮助的是还不会玩贼的人能打本。
3.有了自动提醒之后,非常影响对游戏的理解……大概我是比较懒得那类。。所以我就是想没去弄。。
作者: 玲嘉婕嘉n    时间: 2024-9-11 21:50
非常感谢楼主,两版我都使用了,反馈下感受:1.似乎是少了切割的变量,我自己算是比较熟练打破甲的,用了以后反而有点奇怪;2.目前感受对个人最有用的是0.1版的打5星破甲所需时间;3.之前自己尝试过做过类似WA,但条件变量有点复杂代码不会放弃了,但国外Simon的最新版的模拟器有对破甲循环的能量进行模拟(根据装备),也许可以减少楼主的工作量;4.最终对楼主的期望是直接做成高亮提醒,如果楼主愿意的话如果是已经是熟练破甲的话,就先按照自己的节奏打。
自己切割破甲都在,想看看自己能不能打个割裂的时候,看看预估条的颜色能辅助判断能不能打割裂(淡黄色),能不能再贪个邪恶打个高星割裂(绿色)
其他的0.1和1.0版几乎所有的判断逻辑是一样的。主要是换了显示形式。另外你说的0.1版5星破甲所需时间是指“时间吃紧”么?那个逻辑其实是破甲小于6秒就提醒吃紧,毕竟神也做不到在小于6秒的时候打出6个技能嘛。
在1.0版,是右下角显示的“续破甲”就是破甲小于6秒。图形版 的时间吃紧和能量吃紧 的区分不大,主要是觉得这两种情况玩家的选择相同,都是抓紧打破甲,所以都是粉色背景,只有小字不同。
作者: 穿雨捶    时间: 2024-9-11 21:54
嗯,感谢楼主。我可能需要再在实战测试下你的WA。
期望直接做成高亮提醒的原因,第一主要是想注意力专注到实际的战斗场景中而不是条块的信息提示上,因为实际上要打好破甲循环要兼顾的部分还是比较多的(除了木桩BOOS)。第二是既然是工具,目的就是为了简化或者精确结果,是不是直接反映到终结技图标高亮上会比较直观。这应该并不会造成游戏理解的倒退,因为如果是新手使用,本身就对破甲的理解比较差,而对略熟练的盗贼来说是简化操作,把注意力放到人物而不是图标计时条上。一点小想法,还是看楼主的精力和时间,致敬。
作者: 上善若水8L8    时间: 2024-9-11 22:05
respect
作者: 朗读者72    时间: 2024-9-11 22:10
亲,你之前切割那个WA,下面有个TTS的语音WA,这几天忽然没声音了。。。是为什么呀?




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